More images from the ebay purchase:
I do not have any information other than what you can see. If copying them does not let you view them as well as you would like let me know and I can add a link to this page so that you can download it from my website.
I found yet another picture of Edward that had not been scanned. The clothing dates back to an earlier time but the photo appears to be Edward and not his father whom he closely resembled.
Time has escaped me as I meant to put these images up online from the Crum family much sooner. I think transcribing them slows me down as I already have so much to do. Instead I will put them up and if you have a question please write to kippeeb@rogers.com and put Crum family in the subject line. That will work better I think. I did find that if I simply copied the image and then took it into powerpoint and enlarged it that I could read it very well.
I am doing an inventory of the Archival Boxes which Edward created (I want to check with LAC both here in Ottawa and with the Archival Library for the Province of British Columbia to see if either of them want all of this material - the Kipp family were early settlers (1800) in Oxford/Burford Counties in Ontario and in British Columbia (Chilliwack). He did publish a history of this family (copy at LAC) and the original images of this family are still in these archival boxes. I found a lovely picture of him as a young child in this first Archival Box I have been working on which I have scanned as it seemed to be missed from the large group of pictures that I scanned for him in 2019 and 2020 (he had not scanned his own pictures at that point). He would be about 2 and one half years old in this picture and I think he is living at the home where he grew up after his father passed away (about three months earlier) but it could also be one of the buildings around the farm.
Making an inventory of the archival boxes has proven to be an enormous task as this first box took me two hours and I am about to break for lunch. I have all the vacuuming done but still need to dust and scrub, and vacuum down the stairs. I believe I will work on these archival boxes every Monday as it is hard work since I am not that familiar with the pictures in his ancestral line but fortunately he has put pictures into the Legacy family file which has been excellent. I need to check to make sure that all of them have been scanned but for the most part I suspect that will be the case as he spent a lot of time scanning his work.
As I settle into my task of publishing Edward's research, I hope to have more articles on his blog.
The latest issue of the Kip-Kipp Family Newsletter, Volume 1, Issue 4 is published on the Kipp yDNA study website. This issue discusses Jacob Hendricksen Kip, son of the immigrant Hendrick Hendricksen Kip to New Amsterdam/New York in the latter part of the 1630s or early part of the 1640s.
Again I will place the text in this blog but the images will not show.
The Kip-Kipp Family Newsletter
Table of Contents
1. The Kip-Kipp Family Newsletter
2. Edward Kipp, HBSc, PhD, MLS
3. History of The Kip Family in America
4. What do we know about Jacob Hendricksen Kip (3rd son of Hendrick Hendricksen Kip) ?
5. Letters to the Editor
6. yDNA study at FT DNA on the Kip-Kipp Families
7. Next Issue
1. The Kip-Kipp Family Newsletter
The last issue of Volume 1 and it is a year since I first thought about doing a Kipp Family Newsletter. It is now a year and a half since Edward passed away. Time doesn’t really dim the memory of Edward but does dim the memory of his illness and how difficult it became towards the end of his life. Living in the midst of COVID and trying to protect him from all of that, the memory of those last months have faded now. Mostly I remember all the lovely trips that we took together after I retired in 2008. Edward retired in 2004 but he was only interested in trips on the North American continent. When I finally persuaded him after many years actually (I first went to Europe in 2001), he loved it once he got back home again and six months had passed. He couldn’t wait for the next overseas tour to begin. And so began our booking for particular trips and then preparing our plan for sightseeing around the areas where we were in different hotels on the tours. It worked so very well and we saw a number of items not included on the tour in the big cities that we stayed in. Luckily the hotel choices were often in the midst of the older parts of the cities filled with ancient buildings. We were in the midst of planning a trip to Germany which would include The Netherlands for a short stay in Amsterdam. Edward was in touch with a researcher there that would help to take us through the records of the Kip family held there. Edward’s father Lorne Kipp’s parents were William Henry Kipp and Ida Caroline Wilhelmina Schultz. The Kipp family having their roots in Amsterdam (at the time that they came to the New Amsterdam colony in the 1630s) and the Schultz family having their roots in Mecklenburg-Strelitz from where they came in 1866 (Johann Friedrich Wilhelm Schultz) and 1849 (Wilhemine Fredericka Johanna Niemann). We were busy learning German to help us on that tour around Germany but Edward’s illness had progressed and traveling became out of the question by the end of 2019 so we did have to cancel although we continued working on our German if it happened that there was a change that would permit him to make the trip.
2. Edward Kipp, HBSc, PhD, MLS
Edward and I were working on his family story in late 2020 and early 2021. I had tried for a few years to get him to write a story of his life for our children but he was busy with all his projects and did keep putting it off. Finally we began to work on it together and that was working fairly well although it is much shorter than I had hoped we might get written. I had written my story and it is now over 2000 pages to be honest but 1800+ pages deal with both of us from the time we first started dating until now. When I sat with him in the hospital one time I told him that I would rename the story as Our Story since I had created the story in parts (Part 1 is my childhood) so Parts 2 to where ever I end up can be Our Story.
Edward’s favourite picture was taken in 2004. He is sitting in the Canadian Institute for Scientific and Technical Information building at the National Research Council, Ottawa, Canada where he worked before retirement (for nearly thirty years). Although trained as a scientist (he had his PhD in Inorganic Chemistry, a Postdoc in Environmental Chemical Engineering) he did end up then going back and doing his MLS (masters in library science) and working at the library on the National Research Council Montreal Road Campus in Ottawa.
Although, having graduated in science myself, I would have enjoyed his continuing to work as a scientist but jobs just weren’t there. But the one thing I really noticed as the time away from the laboratory passed was that he didn’t have a cold all the time. So in the long run it did appear that he was healthier working in the library environment. For that, I was quite content. I would have said he missed being a scientist but he did love working in the library as well.
3. History of The Kip Family in America
https://wc.rootsweb.com/trees/133965/I1/hendrickhendricksen-kip/individual
This website on Roots Web is still accessible but the entire listing is also on the website which Edward created:
https://wc.rootsweb.com/
In World Connect, search the "jump to a specific database" field for edwkipp8
Fortunately for the Kip Family in America an earlier researcher put together an extensive family genealogy book “History of The Kip Family in America” by Frederic Ellsworth Kip of Montclair, New Jersey and assisted by Margarita Lansing Hawley of Morristown, New Jersey and was published in 1928 at Boston by Hudson Printing Company. It is available on Internet Archive:
https://archive.org/stream/historyofkipfami00kipf_2/historyofkipfami00kipf_2_djvu.txt
4. What do we know about Jacob Hendricksen Kip (3rd son of Hendrick Hendricksen Kip) ?
Jacob Hendricksen Kip was the third son of Hendrick Hendricksen Kip and Tryntje Lubberts.
Jacob Hendricksen was baptized 25 May 1631 in Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, The Netherlands. His death is mentioned as 24 Dec 1690 at Kip’s Bay, New York City. He married Maria de la Montagne 8 Mar 1654 in New Amsterdam, New Netherlands (this area was still a Dutch Colony at the time of his marriage).
Edward’s notes for Jacob in Legacy Family Tree:
Jacobus Hendricksen Kip was born in Amsterdam, Holland, and emigrated to America with his family. He began his political career in 1647, when only sixteen. He was a clerk in the Provincial secretary's office at New Amsterdam. As early as 1650 he was acting clerk in Director Stuyvesant's Council. In 1650, he was a Deputy Secretary. On Jan. 27, 1653, he was appointed the First Secretary of the Court of Burgomasters and Schepens in New Amsterdam. January 12, 1654, Burgomasters allowed Jacob a salary of 200 Guilders a year as Receiver of the City revenue.
Jacob Kip resigned the office of Secretary, June 12, 1657, and engaged in brewing, combining with this business that of a general trader or storekeeper. November 29, 1655, he was appointed Vendue Master to Court of Orphen Masters and he was a member of the Board of Schepens in 1659, 1662, 1665, and President of the Board in 1674. After the English conquest of New Netherland in 1664, the Burgomasters and Schepens named their own successors, and Jacob was chosen Schepen in 1665. Jacob was an Officer of the City Militia, having been commissioned Lieutenant by Governor Lovelace on May 1, 1668.
Jacob was the ancestor of the Kip's Bay, New York and Worchester County, N.Y., Kip Families. The original patent was for the land was granted by Francis Lovelace, Governor, &c., to Jacob Kipp on April 15, 1671. Jacob built a house at Kip's Bay in 1655 (current spot 2nd Ave and 38th Street NYC). This house was erected in 1655; the bricks of which were imported from Holland. It was a large double house, with three windows in a row on one side of the door and two on the other, with one large wing. House was torn down in 1851 to make way for progress.
Jacob, baptized 25 May 1631 in the Oude Kerk in Amsterdam. DTB 006p306
Sponsors are Herman Heynrix, probably another brother of Hendrick Hendricksz and Sara Willems, unknown.
Sources:
1. 17th Century Hollanders (online site)
http://17thcenturyhollanders.pbworks.com/w/page/63040141/Hendrick%20Hendricksz%20Kip
2. History of The Kip Family In America, by Frederic E. Kip and Margarita L. Hawley, 1928. No. 3, p. 36, 44. (see Item 3 above).
3. Contributions to the History of the Kip Family of New York and New Jersey, by Edwin R. Purple, 1877, 44 pages.
https://archive.org/details/contributionstoh1877purp
4. Historical Notes of the Family of Kip of Kipsburg and Kip's Bay, New York, by William Ingraham Kip, 1871. [This is an interesting book to look at but is in error as the father of Hendrick Hendricksen would not have been Ruloff De Kype as Hendrick’s second name would then have been Ruloffsen as patronymics were followed in The Netherlands in this time period. Hendrick does list his dwelling place in his betrothal statement and it was in Niewenhuys (refer back to Issue 1 of the Kip Family Newsletter). Beginning on page 12 is a writeup on Jacobus.
https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/331207/?offset=&return=1#page=10&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=
5. Collections of the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, Vol. 1.
https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/132136/?offset=0#page=1&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=
Page 18 in the Collection of the NYGBS (Volume 1) has the following:
den 14 dicto. Jacob Hendrickszen Kip, en Maria de Lamontagne, Van Amsterdam, getrouwt den 8 Mart. (this is page 32 on the page viewer).
6. Records of the Reformed Dutch Church in New Amsterdam and New York.
Marriages from 11 December 1639 to 26 August 1801, edited by Samuel S. Purple, MD, New York, 1890.
p. 18. 14 Feb. 1654 Jacob Hendrickszen Kip, en Maria de Lamontagne, Van Amsterdam, getrouwt den 8 Mart.
7. Legal Document of Dutch Colonial Times, by Richard H. Amerman. de Halve Maen, Vol. XXXV, No. 4, Jan. 1961. p. 9, 10 (on viewer page 11,12). Transcription from above MSS item.
https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/276886/?offset=0#page=1&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=
8. The Register of New Netherland 1626 to 1674. By E.B. O'Callaghan. Clearfield Co., Baltimore, MD. 1995. Online at Family Search I found this book which was published at Albany NY by J Munsell, 78 State Street in 1865.
https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/404400/?offset=0#page=27&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=
P. 27. Jacob Kip, acting Provincial Secretary in 1650.
P. 28. Jacob Hendricksen Kip named as Deputy Secretary in 1650.
P. 62 -64. Jacob Kip listed as a Schepen in 1659, 1663 and 11 Aug 1674 named as President as well as Schepen.
P. 103. Jacob Kip listed as a Town Clerk of New Amsterdam 27 Jan 1653.
P. 144. Under Landts Vergadering, or Meeting of Magistrates of the several Dutch Towns, holden at New Amsterdam, at which the towns mentioned below were represented, but we have the names only of those from two places. 3 Nov 1663 Jacob Kip, New Amst erdam.
P. 167. Jacob Kip named To Value the Estates of all persons in New Orange above One thousand Guilders, 1 Feb 1674.
9. Calendar of Dutch Historical Manuscripts in the Office of the Secretary of State Albany, New York 1630-1664, by Edmund B. O'Callaghan, The Gregg Press, Ridgewood, NJ, 1968.
https://archive.org/details/calendarofhistor00newy/page/40/mode/2up
P. 40. Register of Provincial Secretary, Vol. II, p. 163. No date in margin but likely Aug. 1647. Power of Attorney. Jacob Hendricksen Kip to Harman Hendricksen Droogh, his uncle, to receive money due him by the W.I. Company at Amsterdam.
P. 52. Register of Provincial Secretary, Vol. III, p. 75. March 20, 1651. Deed. Peter Cornelissen to Jacob Hendricksen Kip, of a lot on Manhatten island.
P. 130. Council Minutes, Vol. V, p. 97. Jan. 27, 1653. Appointment. Jacob Kip to be secretary or clerk to the burgomasters and schepens of New Amsterdam.
P. 155. Council Minutes, Vol. VI, p. 175. Nov. 29, 1655. Appointment. Jacob Kip, to be vendue master to the court of orphan masters.
P. 186. Council Minutes, Vol. VIII, p. 596. June 12, 1657. Resignation of Jacob Kip of his office of clerk of New Amsterdam and request that another be appointed in his stead, with order thereupon.
P. 187. Council Minutes, Vol. VIII, p. 610. June 13, 1657. Order. Continuing Jacob Kip in his office until he have finished transcribing the records thereof.
P. 221. Council Minutes, Vol. IX, p. 522. March 1, 1660. Petition. Aert Anth. Meddagh, Tonis Gysberts Bogaert, Jorsey Rapelje, Jean Le Cler, Jacob Kip, and others, for permission to plant a village on the river side opposite the Manhatans, in sight of fort Amsterdam, between the lands of said Bogaert and Kip.
P. 382. Land Papers, Vol. H.H., p. 56. June 21, 1656. Patent. Jacob Kip; lot in the Sheep pasture, New Amsterdam.
P. 386. Land Papers, Vol. H.H., p. 127. April 11, 1661. Patent. Jacob Kip; lot in the Sheep pasture, New Amsterdam, adjoining the deacon's lot.
10. American Family Antiquity. Being an account of the origin and progress of American families, traced from their progenitors in this country, connected with their history abroad. Illustrated with portraits and emblazoned coats armorial. Vol. II. KIP. Albert Welles. American College for Genealogical Registry and Heraldry. New York. 1881. New York Public Library. [This book has ten pages on the Kip family Pages 17 to 26). Again it refers back to the Ruloff De Kype family although generally this has been found to be a false line according to Patronymics and the actual birth place of Hendrick Hendricksen Kip. But to be complete in one’s lookback in time it is necessary to relate what is found in the literature.]
https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/208354/?offset=0#page=11&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=
11. Abstract of Title of Kip's Bay Farm in the City of New York, with All Known Maps Relating Thereto, Together With the Water Grants on The East River Adjoining Said Farm, and Releases From the City on the Eastern Post Road. Etc., Etc., Etc.
Also, The Early History of the Kip Family and The Genealogy as Refers to Title. By John J Post of the New York Bar. New York. S. Victor Constant. 1894.
https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/359077/?offset=0#page=1&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=
In this particular document, one notes that Post has avoided any reference to Ruloff de Kype beginning with Hendrick Hendricksen Kype and the family information has been taken from the records.
12. Original Land Patent: Recorded Vol. 3 of the Patents, page 99. Secretary of State's Office, Albany, New York.
https://www.newnetherlandinstitute.org/files/1314/0284/1244/Volumes_GG_HH__II_-_Land_Papers.pdf
To look at the books held by Family Search and with hypertext in the above text it is necessary to have a login and to sign in to read the books.
The following image I found in Edward’s files and it is the Family Chart of Jacobus Kipp (Chappaqua New York). I do not know the original location of this material but if I happen to find it I will add it later. The original would certainly be a much better image to look at I would suspect.
Hendrick Kype is the 7th Great-Grandfather of Joseph Jacobus Kip
* Hendrick Kype
(1576 - )
* Margaret De Marneil
(Abt 1579 - )
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* Hendrick Hendricksen Kip
(1600 – Sep 14 1685)
Tryntie Lubberts
(1599 - After 1665)
Married Apr 20, 1624
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* Hendrick Hendricksen Kip
(Aug 14, 1633 - 1670)
Anna De Sille
(Nov 6, 1640 - May 20, 1711)
Married Feb 29, 1659/60
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* Nicasius Kip
(1666 - Oct 10, 1713)
Antie Breyant
(Sep 1671 - Jul 31, 1715)
Married Dec 20, 1691
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* Cornelius Kip
(Dec 1699 - Dec 1803)
Eva Berdan
(Oct 1697 - Feb 20, 1799)
Married Sep 17, 1720
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Jacobus James Jacobus
(May 21, 1716 - Aug 22, 1794)
* Maritje Cornelese Kip
(Sep 15, 1726 - Bef Jun 1774)
Married Jun 23, 1743
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* Nicholas I Jacobus
(1758 - Dec 27, 1819)
Maritje Vreeland
(Oct 5, 1766 - Nov 11, 1836)
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* James N Jacobus
(Aug 9, 1791 - Feb 2, 1858)
Getty Doremus
(Jan 14, 1795 - Feb 7, 1879)
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* Nicolas I Jacobus
(1822 - May 6, 1901)
Pricilla Kitchell Buggins
(Jul 28, 1836 - Apr 19, 1926)
Married Jun 29, 1865
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* Joseph Jacobus
(Apr 4, 1875 - )
5. Letters to the Editor
This section will be available to anyone wanting to write to the Editor.
6. yDNA study at FT DNA on the Kip-Kipp Families
Project Statistics
Big Y 3
Distinct Y-DNA Confirmed haplogroups 6
Family Finder 21
Paternal Ancestor Information 24
Total Members 41
Unreturned kits 4
Y-DNA Deep Clade (after 2008) 3
Y-DNA Deep Clade (prior to 2008) 1
Y-DNA12 17
Y-DNA25 15
Y-DNA37 15
Y-DNA67 12
Y-DNA111 6
I will wait until I have results for Edward’s testing (I am still trying to decide which test to do although do incline towards doing Y-700) before commenting further on the yDNA study in general. The Kip family of New Amsterdam was not the only Kipp family in the 1700s in the United States and more discussion on these early families will also be forthcoming as Edward did spend time looking at these lines.
7. Next Issue
The next issue is planned for the 1st of February 2023. Anyone wishing to submit an article/letter to the editor please send to Elizabeth Kipp (kippeeb@rogers.com).
