Kipp material - Silva Kipp and Yvonne Labelle

I received an email on my Ancestry account concerning a tombstone in one of the local Ottawa cemeteries for Silva Kipp and his wife Yvonne Labelle.  Two possibilities exist for this Kipp member - he is descendant of Richard Kipp (a brother to my husband's great grandfather Benjamin Kipp) or he is descendant of the Loyalist Kipp family which came to the Montreal area during the American Revolution. I could not find him in Edward's trees but will mention the dates for Silva (1880-1968) and his wife Yvonne (1896-1989). Apparently there are three other names on the stone. If that is of interest to anyone.

Coffin Plate - George Benham M.D.

Coffin or Casket Plate/Plaque

George Benham M.D.

I have had this item in my possession for many years and never gave it much thought. This is a coffin plate for George Benham M.D. Died April 9th 1887, aged 47 years. (Aug. 1840 - April 9, 1887).
He was the husband of Calista Emery Kipp January 30, 1846 to June 13, 1911. [My 1st cousin twice removed. Descended from Richard Titus Kipp, a brother to my great grandfather Benjamin Kipp]
They lived at Princeton, Ontario.

Coffin plates are decorative adornments attached to the coffin that contain genealogical information like the name and death date of the deceased. Generally made of a soft metal like lead, pewter, silver, brass, copper, zinc or tin. The different metals reflect the different functions of the plates, or the status and wealth of the deceased. For a basic funeral, a simple lead plate would be lettered with the name, date of death and often the age of the departed, and nailed to the lid of a wooden coffin.

In the late 1840s the first machine made coffin plates began to appear. At first they were simple shapes stamped out of a flat piece of metal. The industrial manufactured coffin plates of course had no names on them. They were in fact just blanks that were intended to be engraved by someone in the local community such as a jeweller or undertaker. As such the quality of the engraving varies wildly.

In North America the same time that the use of coffin plates was increasing in popularity the practice of removing the plates from the coffin before burial increased. Often the Coffin Plates were never attached to the coffin but displayed on a stand or table next to it. The coffin plates were removed to be kept as mementos by the loved ones of the deceased.

Where does Chauncey Kipp fit into the Canadian Kipp Families?

Where does Chauncey Kipp fit into the Canadian Kipp Families?

In my years of research on the Kipp families in Ontario, I came to realize there were at least two Kipp families in Southern Ontario.

One of these was my family, the descendants of Isaac Kipp and Hannah Meed (Mead), who generally lived in the area of Blenheim, Blandford, East Oxford and Burford Townships.

The other family, descendants of John (James) Kipp and Lydia McPherson, I call the Tillsonburg Kipp Family.  In general they lived in the southern part of Oxford County in the Dereham Township area and in areas further west such as Middlesex and Elgin Counties.

After doing some DNA testing, we determined that the two families are related.  The problem is the furthest back ancestor we can identify in each family comes to a dead end in the paper trail in New York State.  Both families are related to the Kip/Kipp family of New Amsterdam (New York) (determined through DNA testing).

The Tillsonburg Kipp family can be traced back to John (James) Kipp (cir 1770-cir 1828) and Lydia McPherson (cir 1774-?).  Of their children, there are two of interest.

Henry Kipp (cir 1800 - ?), married Rachel Ann Wintermute (1794-?), on June 23, 1827 at Queenston, Upper Canada.  One of their children was Chauncey Kipp (1828-1876) (1861 & 1871 Census of Canada), who married Lucinda Thompson (1837-1912) cir. 1855.  Resided in Middlesex County, Ontario.

William Kipp (1790-1856), married Rachel Mann (1794-1857) cir 1818, probably in Upper Canada.  They had a son named Chauncey Kipp (1834-1918) (1851 Census of Canada), who married Sara Jane Laur (1840-1918) on Dec. 10, 1859.

Family of Isaac Kipp and Hannah Meed

They had a son named Jonathan Kipp (cir. 1792-1831), who married Roda or Rhoda Chausey (cir. 1795-?), cir. 1818.  I have only found one child for them named Sylvanus Kipp (1819-1889), who married Lorena Bush (1820-?) on May 13, 1842 at Woodstock, Canada West.  They do not seem to have had a son named Chauncey.

Please contact me if you have additional information.

Isaac Kipp one of my 2x Great Grandfather

Isaac Kipp one of my 2x Great Grandfather

Edward Kipp

Isaac Kipp (Nov. 1, 1764 - Aug. 6, 1846) my 2 x Great grandfather

m. Hannah Meed August 29, 1790, probably Nine Partners Patent, North East, Dutchess County, New York.

The family story is that Isaac Kipp (Nov. 1, 1764 - Aug. 6, 1846 - family bible) (the elder), my gg grandfather, came from Dutchess County, New York.  He settled in Upper Canada in October 1800.  He may have come to Upper Canada because of the offer of land made by Governor Simcoe in the early 1790's, as did many prominent people such as Thomas Hornor, who founded Blenheim Township, Oxford County, Ontario in 1793.  He may also have known about Hornor's Governor's Road Settlement (Princeton) if he was from N.Y. State, since Hornor was from the area of Princeton, N.J.  The Hornor family was Quaker and had connections with Long Island families.

The 1851 Census of Canada West, East Oxford Township, Oxford County has listings for two of his sons, Isaac and David.  Isaac said he was born in N.Y. State.  David said he was born in the U.S.A.  Isaac the elder and three of his older children Jonathan, James and John were dead by then so they are not on the Census.

The 1790 Census of the United States has an Isaac Kipp and wife (no children) living in Northeast, Dutchess County, N.Y.  They were living next to Jonathan Meed and family.  There is no Isaac Kipp and family there in the 1800 Census.  There were many Quaker families in this area.

The 1800 Census of the United States has an Isaac Kipp and wife living in Rensselaerville, Albany County, N.Y.  They have children: 3 males to 10 and 1 male 10 to 20.  If this is my family, there is one son missing.

It is possible that Isaac and Hannah moved from Dutchess County sometime after 1790, stopped in Albany County near Rensselaerville and were recorded in 1800 US Census and then proceeded across New York State by established routes to cross the Niagara River and then proceeded across Upper Canada to Oxford County.  They could also have taken a lake boat and landed along Lake Erie and proceeded inland to Oxford County.

DNA Study

Several years ago I submitted a DNA sample to the National Genographic Project and subsequently uploaded those results to the FT DNA website where I established a KIP/KIPP family DNA study.  Since then other individuals have tested their y-DNA and joined the KIP/KIPP DNA study at FT DNA).  Three of the six individuals match my first 12 markers exactly and one of the three individuals has taken his markers to 37 and we match 35/37 where the difference is in CDYa/b which are considered to be fast moving markers and any familial differences often appear in these markers within family lines.  This individual has a paper trail back to the de Kype (Kip) family of New Amsterdam who emigrated between 1636 and 1643 to New Amsterdam now the present day New York City.  I still have a brickwall with my gg grandfather Isaac Kipp in Dutchess County, New York (born 1764).  I have never found out who his parents were.  I continue to try to find the paper trail back to Hendrick Hendricksen [Kip] in New Amsterdam.

Interestingly, the haplogroup for this set of markers is R1b1b2a1a which is thought to be Frisian (i.e. that grouping of peoples who lived along the northwestern European coastline between the Atlantic and Denmark and within a 100 miles of Amsterdam).

1. Edward Kipp

2. Lorne Bernice Kipp (b Sept. 3, 1901) - Gobles, Oxford Co. ON, Canada (m Phyllis Link)

3. William Henry Kipp (b Oct. 1, 1862) - Burford Twp, Brant Co., Canada West (m Ida Caroline Schultz)

4. Benjamin Kipp (b Mar. 26, 1811) - Burford Twp, Brant Co., Upper Canada (m Elizabeth Force)

5.Isaac Kipp (b Nov. 1, 1764) - New York (m Hannah Meed)

6. DNA

7. DNA

8. DNA

9. Isaac Hendricksen Kip (b Jan 1627) - Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands (m Catalyntje Hendrick Snyers)

10. Hendrick Hendricksen [Kip] (b cir 1600) – Netherlands (m Tryntie Lubberts)

Sources:

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BIRTH and MARRIAGE dates:

From the Family Bible of Richard Titus Kipp (in the possession of the author)

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PETITION FOR LAND:

(Archives of Ontario - Upper Canada Land Patents -- K Bundle 1797-1799 & 1800-1802, Group 5, #22 (Isaac Kipp) 3p. Also, National Archives of Canada - mf C-2117)

To His Excellency Peter Hunter Esquire Lieut Governor of the Province of Upper Canada ---- in Council

The Petition of Isaac Kipp of the Township of Blenheim, Farmer

Humbly therewith --

That your Petitioner has been about nine months in the Province, with his Family consisting of a wife and five children that he has a yoke of oxen, two cows & farming utensils -- agreeably to the annexed certificate and that being desirous to settle in the Province, your petitioner humbly prays your Excellency would be pleased to grant him a Lot on Dundas Street for improvement, and as in Duty bound your petitioner shall ever pray --

Isaac Kipp (signed)     York 6th August 1801

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OATH OF ALLEGIANCE:

Oath of Allegiance taken by Thomas Hornor on August 7, 1801.

(Original is found in the Brant County Museum, Brantford, Ontario.)

(Archives of Ontario - Upper Canada Land Patents -- K Bundle 1797-1799 & 1800-1802, Group 5, #22 (Isaac Kipp) 3p. Also, National Archives of Canada - mf C-2117)

This may Certify that the bearer Isaac Kipp has been an Inhabitant of this Country since last October, he has a wife & five Children, is a very industrious man and has a yoke of oxen, two milk cows and one Calf & farming utensils for the use of a farm -- and has taken the Oath of Allegiance as prescribed by law.

Thomas Hornor J.P. (signed)   Blenheim August 8th 1801

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ORDER-IN-COUNCIL (OC):

(Archives of Ontario - Upper Canada Land Patents -- K Bundle 1797-1799 & 1800-1802, Group 5, #22 (Isaac Kipp) 3p. Also, National Archives of Canada - mf C-2117)

No. 22 Isaac Kipp Rec. 17 Aug't 1801

Read in Council 18 August Recommended for 200 acres subject to the Settling Duties.

App. Hr. Peter Russell

Warrant paid 31 August 1801 to Mr. Joseph Willcock.

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AFFIDAVIT:

(Archives of Ontario - Township Papers, East Oxford, lot 1 concession 1, 3p.)

Home District     Before me William Allan Esquire of York to wit

His Majesty's Justices of the Peace for

the Home District personally came and appeared Isaac Kipp of the Township of Burford yeoman and made oath that there are five acres cleared and under cultivation on Lot Number one in the first concession of the Township of Oxford on Dundas Street Eastern Division. That a House of Sixteen by twenty is erected on the said Lot and that half the allowance for road in front of the said Lot is completely cleared.

Sworn before me this 3rd December 1810 W. Allan J.P (signed)

Isaac Kipp (signed)

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RECEIPT:

(Archives of Ontario - Township Papers, East Oxford, lot 1 concession 1, 3p.)

Reg 346    Receiver Generals Office   York the 3 December 1810

Isaac Kipp has paid into this Office Two Pounds ten shillings Provincial Currency the 2d of Patent Fees on 200 acres of Land. Being Lot No. 1, 1st Con in Dundas Street Oxford E. Division Reg 1797

2.10 pound Provl Currency to the Acting Surveyor Gen'l

P. Selby Rec. Gen'l (signed)

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DESCRIPTION OF THE GRANT:

(Archives of Ontario - Township Papers, East Oxford, lot 1 concession 1)

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CROWN PATENT:

(Archives of Ontario - Land Patents - Lib. LA, Folio 356):

East Oxford Township, Oxford County, Ontario. Lot 1 Concession 1.

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Isaac served in the County of Oxford Militia under Thomas Hornor.  His name appears on a pay list dated June 4, 1805.  An Isaac Kipp was also in the First Flank Company of the First Regiment of Oxford Militia as indicated by the pay list dated July 21, 1812 (could have been his son Isaac).

(Will - Surrogate Court, Court House, Woodstock, Ontario. Non-contentious, Isaac Kipp. No. 45, Grant No. 45)

(Index of Wills of Oxford County 1805-1870, Oxford County Branch, OGS)

Isaac Kipp died on August 6, 1846. In his will he mentions his sons Isaac, Benjamin, Richard, David, Daniel and John. He also mentions his wife Hannah, his daughter Eliza Reece, a granddaughter Hannah Reece and his daughter Susan Lawrence and her husband Samuel. The executors of his will were his wife Hannah, John Jackson, George Lowthian, Innkeeper, and William Force. The estimated value of his goods and chattels was 106 pounds and 10 shillings. This included such items as one yearling steer, two calves, one yolk of oxen, three horses, and five sheep, etc.

1851 Census of Canada West:

East Oxford Township. Oxford Co. has listings for two of his sons, Isaac and David. Isaac said he was born in N.Y. State.  David said he was born in the U.S.A.  Isaac the elder and three of his older children Jonathan, James and John were dead by then so are not on the Census.

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LAND DEALINGS:

Isaac deeded lot 1 concession 1 of East Oxford Township to two of his sons, the east 100 acres to John in 1817 and the west 100 acres to David in 1818.  He then bought land on lot 11 concession 1 of Burford Township, Brant County, about one mile east of Princeton, Ontario.  He bought this land from James Smiley on July 10, 1809 (NE 50 acres) for 21 pounds 17 shillings 6 pence (Memorial 276, con 1 lot 11 Burford Township, Oxford County Registry Office, Woodstock, Ontario).  On May 14, 1815 he purchased a further 89 acres.  

On an 1824 voter's list for Oxford County Isaac was on lot 24 concession 1 of Burford Township and voted for Thomas Hornor and James Racey.  In 1835, when Isaac was 71, this farm was transferred to his son Richard Titus on a life lease.  Isaac died in 1846.  The farm was sold to James Lewis in 1857.  Part of this farm was bought by William Rabb in 1916.  He married Ella Kipp, a great-granddaughter of Isaac Kipp, the elder.

On November 10, 1821, James Kipp, a son of Isaac Kipp. the elder, bought 98 acres of the west half of concession 1 lot 13, Burford Township from John Doyle for 50 pounds of lawful money of the Province of Upper Canada.  However, James was bonded to his father for the sum of 400 pounds on November 20, 1821.  The bond said that his father had bought the farm for the purpose of bestowing it upon James and that Isaac was determined to reserve a certain portion of the pine timber now growing on the west half of lot 13, a sufficient quantity for building and fencing; timber for the use of the farm on which Isaac was now residing, lot 11 concession 1 Burford Township.  James became ill several years later.  His will made out and dated March 1, 1825 is in the possession of Mrs. Ethel (Kipp) Brinker (deceased), of Princeton, Ontario. The rag paper has a watermark containing the date 1820 in large sized numbers which are easily seen when the paper is held up to the light.

The will bequeathed to his father 49 acres of the south west corner of lot 13 and to his mother one two year old heifer.  The remainder of the estate was divided among his brothers and sisters. James marked his will with shaking hand in the presence of Levi R. Brown, Samuel Doyle and William Slawson.  The executors of the will were Henry Slawson, Jacob Goble, and William King Cornish. James died on March 6, 1825.

A Quit Claim was issued on March 19, 1825 in which David Kipp, a son of Isaac Kipp, the elder, obtained the whole of the north west 49 acres of lot 13 for the sum of 20 pounds lawful money to each of:  Isaac Kipp of Oxford, heir-at-law of James Kipp, John Kipp of Oxford, Jonathan Kipp of Oxford, Henry Reece and wife Elizabeth of Burford, Robert Lucas Gillam and wife Phebe of Dumfries, and Susan Kipp of Burford, spinster.

Isaac Kipp, the elder, passed on the southwest quarter of lot 13 to his son David on January 3, 1846.  David sold the west half of lot 13 to his son David Jr. on August 30, 1870.  After David Jr. died, his son Walter obtained the farm from his mother Elizabeth on a life lease in 1906.  Walter's son Delmer bought the farm in 1935.  Delmer ran a wholesale butter business and his brother Donald farmed the land.  The farm was sold to Eugene Horvath in 1957.  The original house built on lot 13 still stands in a remodeled state.  Ten inch thick hand hewn squared timbers were used.  There was a massive oak front door with large double lock and large key.